Former Vice President Mike Pence says on Jan. 6, 2021, he was unaware of the attempted plan to deliver him a slate of alternative Republican electors from Wisconsin.

“I was not aware of any plan to present alternative electors,” Pence said on WISN’s “UpFront,” which is produced in partnership with “In fact, on the Sunday before Jan. 6, I met with the parliamentarian of the Senate and asked a very direct question, whether there were any other slates of electors that had not been certified by states across the county, and she assured me there was not.”

Text messages made public by the Jan. 6 committee revealed Pence’s aide texted Sen. Ron Johnson’s chief of staff informing him to not deliver the documents to Pence.

“I didn’t have any knowledge of that at the time,” Pence said. “I learned about that long after the fact, but it was altogether appropriate. The states have a process for certifying electors. Wisconsin had gone through that process.”

Pence, who said he is considering a 2024 run for president, wouldn’t directly say whether he would back Donald Trump if Trump received the GOP nomination during the Republican National Convention in Milwaukee.

“Let me just say I really do believe we’ll have better choices,” Pence said. “I think Republican primary voters understand the challenges facing this country.”

Rep. Mark Pocan, D-Town of Vermont, told “UpFront” he expects at least 20 more Republicans to vote for the Respect for Marriage Act when the bill comes back to the House.

“We’re actually going to get more Republicans to vote with us,” Pocan said. “I talked to a few of the Republicans who voted against it the first time, and let’s just say I shamed them a little bit on why they would not vote to support marriage as it is under current law in the United States, and I think they kind of realized enough Kool-Aid may have been drank on that side, and on this issue it’s time to recognize reality.”

Pocan also said he’ll back Rep. Hakeem Jeffries to succeed House Speaker Nancy Pelosi.

“I came into Congress with Hakeem,” Pocan said. “He’s a good friend. He’s a very talented member of Congress, and he’s a real consensus builder, and I think he’s going to be a great leader for the Democrats going forward.”

More fallout could come for state Rep. Janel Brandtjen after Assembly Republicans voted to bar her from attending closed caucus meetings.

Brandtjen is chair of the Assembly Committee on Campaigns and Elections.

“What I’m watching is the other shoe,” JR Ross, editor of, told “UpFront.” “She has been chair of that committee this session. Robin Vos has hinted before that is not going to last. He has not released committee chairs as of yet. We expect once he does, Brandtjen is no longer going to be a chair.”

Brandtjen received a letter informing her of the decision which said: “continual issues” have led the caucus to lose trust in her.

“Brandtjen wants to define this as punishment because of how she’s performed as chair of the campaign elections committee, that she has explored these various conspiracy theories about the 2020 election and that her Republican colleagues are uncomfortable about what she’s found or pushed forward,” Ross said. “Talk to her colleagues, however, and they will tell you it’s a matter of trust. Let’s remember in politics your word is your currency. If you can’t be trusted, you can’t be worked with.”

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